Airsoft vs Teeth

Panzerfaust

It happens, a bb will hit someone in the teeth and teeth will break. It doesn't even take a high velocity spring to produce these results. I've seen cases of a stock aeg knocking out an incisor. It's rare but we need to recognize it's inherent danger. Some people have taken to wearing full face masks to avoid the possibilty, others wear mouth guards. Certain venues requiring insurance will add a balaclava to your list of protective gear to prevent the possibility. I think the best prevention is awarness. Be aware of the danger, be aware of your surroundings on the field. Keep your mouth closed or teeth covered during a fire fight, and shooters avoid face shots if possible.

What are your thoughts on this?
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Ninja Scott

We had a guy yesterday almost have that problem. Luckily 2 bb's hit his lip and the third he just swallowed. (I swear that I was not aiming at his face).... Other than that it is good to be aware. Beyond that I really think that it is personal preferance.... I would be pretty pissed if I got a tooth shot out, but wouldn't hold it against anybody. That is a risk that I'm willing to take. I really like the idea of having protective gear on hand just in case. I think that I would be more likely to use gear if we played at closer ranges or CQC. Especially CQC, coming around a corner and getting blasted in the face would kinda suck with out something protective.
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reidc

Pretty easy to fix. Face masks, balaclava, shemagh would all do the trick.
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Skearit

I've thought about since getting shot in the lip like the second time I played. It's a risk, it's inherent, but I don't want a big monstrous face mask closing in my field of vision. I'll accept the risk with a pair of safety glasses
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James

I keep planning on getting a nice mouth guard to play with. As soon as I find a good cheap one that doesn't make me feel like a horse with peanut butter on my lips, I'll start playing with that in. I have spent too much time and money on my teeth to have anything happen to them.

On a side note, good goggles are always worth the price. Way back in the day I played with just my normal glasses and they are definitely not good enough. I chipped the side of my lens and am lucky to still see out of my left eye. Thus everyone is probably annoyed with how paranoid I am and persistent that everyone wears eye protection. On the other hand, I don't care if some of you are a bit more ugly and have a few chipped teeth.
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Panzerfaust

James wrote:"Thus everyone is probably annoyed with how paranoid I am and persistent that everyone wears eye protection."

definitely not, you only get one pair of eyes. Take care of them.
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James

Airsoft won this weekend. I went sliding down a hill with Andrew's shotgun in my right hand and my pistol set to full auto in my left. I surprised 3 Bravos who were about to make a move on one of the flags. I only got one of them and the butt of the shotgun got my tooth and I am 1/16 less of a bottom front tooth.
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Panzerfaust

that's so crazy. Who was it that took a round in the tooth last game after some excessive fire? Glad they fared better.
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James

Ann was the one shot in the teeth. I guess it hit the top of her tooth and rang through her skull pretty good. Guess it was a bad tooth day for the family. The good thing is she had fun and got a few kills as well.
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reidc

I can find a discount site for teeth for those who want the George Washington look. Glad everyone got through without any serious problems!

I agree with all the posts. The one little comment Id like to add is this: I agree we should try to avoid head shots in general. My brothers and I used to have a firm NO head shots rule. However we quickly ran into a problem. It is very common to take cover behind a hill or log or wall and pop shots off over the top, producing no target other than your head. We have tried to switch to mandatory full face masks, but most people dont have them, and some refuse to wear them. You just do the best you can, and accept the consequences if you decide to not wear full protective gear.

As a side note, my brothers and I used to use bb guns as sniper rifles, and I once had my ear completely pierced. It was pretty awesome. Battle scares are part of the fun of airsoft. I think people these days could greatly benefit from seeing more of their own blood.

Haha, AMEN to that. I think if we had a NO head shot rule, it would be to hard, because like Jordan said, half the time thats all thats visible. I remember over this last weekend when me and my friends were having an airsoft war up green canyon, my friend got shot RIGHT IN THE TOOTH. Jordan, you were there to. He was just fine, luckily, and had no damage done, But i think he will start to wear a balclava or face mask.

XxEPICdieHARDxX wrote: I remember over this last weekend when me and my friends were having an airsoft war up green canyon, .....

May I suggest that you be sure of the laws where you play. Green Canyon is a fiercely no fire zone. My friends had the cops called on them for playing up there, it was kind of a bad story.

I was going to give the same warning that Scott gave. The less law confrontations the better for all airsofters. Just avoid Green Canyon.

As far as head shots are concerned I follow the intention rule. If you are shooting at a target you should try not to aim at the head. If you are aiming at the head you are intending to cause greater pain or you just have some bad habits from video games. This is why any hit will take out a player no matter where on the body. The intention is to have fun so you shouldn't affect other peoples fun by aiming at their head. It isn't funny or show that you are a better player.

If all the other person shows is their head during an exchange of bbs they know it and take that risk. Though, if you are a sniper or someone just doesn't know you are aiming at them, then you should not aim or shoot until the target shows something other than their head is available.

There are very few times that you can't wait and get a better shot. Avoid the head unless they just won't ever move. If you are good enough you can sneak up on them and yell, at the top of your lungs, "REID" and get them to change their pants! (Fair warning, watch out for Donknottz)

James could hold his own with a Mcdonalds straw and a handful of BB's.

TRUTH!

Ninja Scott wrote:

XxEPICdieHARDxX wrote: I remember over this last weekend when me and my friends were having an airsoft war up green canyon, .....

May I suggest that you be sure of the laws where you play. Green Canyon is a fiercely no fire zone. My friends had the cops called on them for playing up there, it was kind of a bad story.

We actually had the cops called on us to and they came up to the parking lot, saw that they were airsoft guns and left without a word, so its fine. The only thing you have to watch for is civilians.

Well that is either BS or you are lucky.

Well, TopJobAsfphalt was with us and his car has "Top Job Asphalt" written on the side of, he and his brothers have had the cops called on them for airsofting many times and so the cop new exactly who it was and that it wasnt illegeal up there. But i dont think we are going to go up green canyon anymore anyways, there are better spots.

...Whatever.

XxEPICdieHARDxX wrote:

Ninja Scott wrote:

XxEPICdieHARDxX wrote: I remember over this last weekend when me and my friends were having an airsoft war up green canyon, .....

May I suggest that you be sure of the laws where you play. Green Canyon is a fiercely no fire zone. My friends had the cops called on them for playing up there, it was kind of a bad story.

We actually had the cops called on us to and they came up to the parking lot, saw that they were airsoft guns and left without a word, so its fine. The only thing you have to watch for is civilians.

What Christian said is all true. My brothers and I went up green alot about a year or two ago, and the cops always get called but they always turn back when they see my truck. The they all said that it was fine to airsoft their, just as long as it wasn't paint ball, or they turned around without a word. The cops are really cool about it, its the tree huggers that get all worked up because they think we scare all the wildlife. I see your point though about not wanting negative perceptions of airsoft, by police or locals, because the locals pass the laws that the police enforce.

Not to affend, but more than a dozen times in a row having cops called and the cops saying its ok is neither BS nor luck. I called the NPPD before we did it the first time. I have all the PD in the valleys #s in my phone, and call frequently to make sure I am in compliance with all their ordinances. Thats what it takes to be in business.

Also, because Green Canyon is National Forest North Logan cannot, however badly they may want to, restrict legal hunting activities there. So their "Strict No Fire Zone" is pretty limited.

Well perhaps it was my friends that were unlucky because they DID get into trouble.

Unfortunatley sometimes people with authority start feeling their oats and enforcing things the way they think it should be, not the way it really is. I called the DMV once to double check the legal age limit on motorcycle helmet use. No one would tell me. All they would say is that everyone should always wear a helmet. I eventually had to look it up on line. I also almost got a ticket once for honking my truck horn. "Excessive use of horn" they called it, because I honked at some friends as I drove past. Morons!

That being said, not everything that is legal is right or considerate, so I am considering whether or not we should play there again.

yeah, we try to stay outside of city limits and off of wildlife management areas. We have run into some issues with one of our fields. Pretty much anywhere we can discharge a live firearm we can play. Private property is another story. What kind of terrain is your family's 15 acres?

Like i said before, we, meaning my friends, will most likely not go up green canyon anymore because i know of some better places anyway.