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Post by Airsoft'LJL Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:08 pm

I have a question, this gun shoots 450 to 500 FPS and it is semiautomatic no full auto. Can it be used? What are the limits for airsoft GAS rifles that are semiautomatic?
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Post by Donknottz Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:24 pm

If it is a sniper rifle (which if it is shooting that high it should only be used as one) we generally limit them to spring operated. This reduces the tendency for people to shoot multiple painful shots at their target before they have a chance to yell they are hit. So unless it is toned down you can't use it according to our rules.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:07 am

but could I go single shot? cock every time? it has a cocking mechanisam or could I just shoot and count to 3 like AEGs?
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Post by Panzerfaust Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:25 am

sounds like money better spent upgrading your bolt action.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:56 pm

no that one is crappy its mags ae braking and they do not sell mags any more and one is cracked and so it will not last me that long but the c96 has a cocking mechanism to so... and its higher performance and is pretty nice.
you can buy more mags!
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Post by reidc Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:10 pm

doesn't matter how nice it is if you can't use it on the field!
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:21 pm

yeah but it can go single shot as in bolt action mode not semiautomatic thats what I am meaning can I use it at bolt action mode, as in shoot cock shoot cock it only shoots 450
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Post by reidc Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:24 pm

not too bad. what will you use in the winter when gas guns don't work?
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Post by Panzerfaust Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:25 pm

Unless you can mechanically disable the semiautomatic to where the gun HAS to be cocked with every shot, and show us you've done so, I'm going to say No this gun should not be allowed at CVA events. You want to use it as a bolt action? Buy a bolt action rifle then. It's pretty simple.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:04 pm

ok and if I got it in the winter I would use my AK74 I want it caues its a WWII airsoft gun I am wanting to do WWII airsoft and there are some utah WWII events and that is a cheap all metal and wood gas sniper so... But I love my ak 74 and I usualy do not play in winter though. cause its cold and I can not feel the bbs with a coat unless I find somthing warm but not thick.


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Post by Donknottz Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:07 pm

I agree with what Andrew has said. Unless the semi-auto can be disabled it wouldn't be allowed on the field. I have been with people and tried it myself to just count between shots. When the adrenaline is pumping it is hard to control how long you wait between shots. I hope you don't feel like we are coming down on you, we just want to keep the games as safe as possible.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:09 pm

oh no but its got a cocking mechanism not the counting it can cock too but its fine I will try to find a nother cheap WWII gun
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Post by reidc Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:16 pm

by the by, the AK 74 was released after the ak 47. Neither of which had anything to do with WW2. The best WW2 gun I've seen so far is the MP44.
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Post by reidc Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:17 pm

Oh yeah, the tommy gun also was used extensively
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Post by Donknottz Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:41 pm

Mmmm, I wants a tommy gun. Except I hear they are pretty heavy.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:02 pm

reidc wrote:by the by, the AK 74 was released after the ak 47. Neither of which had anything to do with WW2. The best WW2 gun I've seen so far is the MP44.
yeah I am talking about the mauser lol not the ak the mauser c96 is a german carbine the ak was made in 1974 I love the mp44 but it goes 420 with .2g BBs so I could not use it so... and the agm mp40 is 290fps witch is to low and then I found ak74 me likey
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Post by Panzerfaust Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:36 am

MP44 + M120 spring + $10 for me to downgrade it for you = happy.

this formula also works the opposite way:

MP40 + M120 spring + metal 6mm bushings + $10 for me to upgrade it for you = happy.

result is the same. Very Happy

The AK74 is very nice though. I'm still impressed by mine every time I use it.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:57 pm

ok just let me get it first but you got a deal
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Post by Panzerfaust Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:39 pm

Yeah, send me a PM when you'd like the work done.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:01 pm

ok I will probably get the agm mp40. How much fps will it be when you upgrade?
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Post by Panzerfaust Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:44 pm

That depends what spring you buy. Springs generally cost $11-18 depending where you get them.

Below is a list of manufacturers, the spring type and the associated velocity with with those springs.
It's an approximation, factors such as barrel length, piston/cylinder assembly, air seal will mess with the speeds to some degree.

Systema:

1 Joule - 310 f.p.s.

M100 - 365 f.p.s.

M120 - 395 f.p.s.

M120S - 440 f.p.s.

Prometheus:

MS90SP - 315 f.p.s.

MS100SP - 340 f.p.s.

MS110SP - 390 f.p.s.

MS120SP - 440 f.p.s.

Guarder:

SP85 - 313 f.p.s.

SP90 - 335 f.p.s.

SP100 - 395 f.p.s.

SP110 - 425 f.p.s.

SP120 - 440 f.p.s.

KM:

90M - 318 f.p.s.

100M - 343 f.p.s.

120M - 396 f.p.s.

130M - 422 f.p.s.

140M - 450 f.p.s.

PDI:

120% - 330 f.p.s.

130% - 370 f.p.s.

140% - 380 f.p.s.

150% - 405 f.p.s.

170% - 440 f.p.s.

Angel:

120% (85-95m/s) - 318f.p.s.

130% (95-110m/s) - 343 f.p.s.

140% (110-125m/s) - 430 f.p.s.

Top Power:

150% - 385 f.p.s.

170% - 415 f.p.s.

190% - 455 f.p.s.
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:37 am

great I will get m120 it be a couple months and what 6mm bushings should I get? And would this work on my sniper too?
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Post by Ninja Scott Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:04 pm

I don't know ... My primary gun lost fps when I upgraded it.... Sad
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Post by Airsoft'LJL Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:26 pm

that sucks and andrew would you beable to upgrade a 230fps $25 gun to 450 fps>?
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Post by Ninja Scott Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:16 pm

Dr.funk wrote:that sucks and andrew would you beable to upgrade a 230fps $25 gun to 450 fps>?


LMAO... ANDREW!!! DO IT!
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