Proposed modification

I think Reid brings up another good point. New members to the group are going to be buying guns based upon reviews and might not look at our rules before they buy. Here's the thing, over 85% of our group is made up of our friends who we convinced to join and have a good time with us. If you have a friend who is getting started, help them make a wise purchase that fits the requirements. Also, if you have friends who are interested in playing but not necessarily with our group, you should probably still be giving them advice about the right kind of gear. It does concern me as well Reid, and I can see the points you are making and I am glad you are willing to bring it up and keep discussing it. That's why you are a good leader and a team captain. I think to help control the FPS limit we need to help our buddies make good decisions.

There are very few people who come across airsoft on their and decide that they are going to buy a $200+ gun shooting over 400 FPS. If they start on their own they usually start small, though there are a few who don't. So if we give good advice and have hard fast rules, we can reduce the problems before they start.

I brought up the idea to my stepdad aka Reid, but only under the frustration over my
SR-25. My friend Robert who first bought it loved it and we used it many of times in dry canyon and no one said anything about it we just all talked about how cool it was so i decided to get one. When i finnaly did just a couple of weeks ago. This is brought up about how the Sr-25 hits too hard and i should down grade it. No one ever said anything about it i even said out on the field many times that i was gonna get one. I spent about 300$ on tha sucker. My HK 416 was broken and i needed a new gun, and now i cant use it not even as a sniper rifle. I myself have been hit by it under 50 ft it stings a little but it doesnt bother me. The only reason i proposed the idea to Reid is cuz it would allow all the guns from weapon blender which is where most of us buy our guns. After the problems with buying from outta state. I rarely buy anywhere else , and as new people so join our great squads i believe they too will buy from weapon blender. Now i might be a bit hard but thats cuz im willing to do anything if you guys wanna go out in armor and hardcore bb guns Lets do it! lol I just dont think this idea should just be shot down so fast i propose that every one invest like 30$ in masks and stop poking our heads just barely out to be shot and blindfiring. And i dont think weve had a serious injury like the ones in the pictures you put up and i dont want one to happen. I just think our rules are too strict especially the sniper ones. I mean bolt action only and only 1 shot per 3 seconds i mean even i can shoot faster than that with a bolt action rifle plus many sniper rifles in this age are semi and according to the sniper rifle rules my Sr-25 is not allowed nor a 50 cal . I think our rules are little too strict for this day and age

I'd be frustrated too if one gun over the limit was allowed for so long, and then mine wasn't. Hell, I'd be pissed. The problem is we weren't consistent with enforcing this earlier. Not having a field chronograph doesn't allow us to even question an AEG's fps if we suspect it may be over the rules.

Robert wasn't exactly up front about his SR-25 being over the limit. Thing is those guns should have never made it onto the field. I caught wind of them in side conversations at a game, and had to do some research on the SR's. The issue was allowed to slide for too long, and now more hot guns are showing up. Our rules have been in place since last summer. Should we adjust our rules for your rifles, or should you adjust your rifles for our rules?

Downgrade the spring, it'll cost you $12 at most if you buy a new one, and will bring your gun within the green. You could even clip a couple coils out of the spring to bring down the gun's power. I'd be happy to do it for you if you wanted, totally free of charge. It's not like you can't use the gun. There are options.

I want to thank everyone for all the input into this. For those who are interested the SR 25 Robert and Devin have will not accept a velocity reducer since the barrel end is not threaded. It was eye opening to learn that the limit is also tied to underwriting. Since I have never researched any of the rental fields that is a point I would never have considered. Andrew and James, I wonder if a short recap of the salient points raised here should be added to the Safety and Rules post along with a link to the pics Andrew tracked down. Or maybe a poll added to that post with everyone signing on so we have a record of their agreement.
For Devin and Robert I agree with Andrew. Laxity is the issue and I think it is once again time to see who wants to kick in for a team chrono. I have ten bucks for it this Saturday. I think, however, that the points of safety raised have convinced me that the limits are both well thought out and reasonable.
If Devin or Robert wish an anything goes game they can always post it and those who wish can, as always, attend.
See ya'll Saturday.

I think it would be excellent to add some of the points raised to the bottom of the rules thread. When I get a moment i'll add some though the thread isn't locked so anyone can add, though in order to keep that thread clean I reserve the right to edit and tidy up as necessary. I added a poll to the top for everyone to agree too. A lot simpler than having to keep track of a bunch of waivers, though probably less legally binding. On a side note, if rules are ever changed, it will clear the results of the poll and people will have to place their mark again.

Cool.

about the comparison with simunitions. I have a cop friend who has scars from where he took simunitions hits. I already have enough scars littered about my anatomy, I don't need more from airsoft.

Might I suggest that this is a good time to ask for more donation to get a Higher Quality Chrono for CVA...?

I think that's a good idea. I'm willing to chip in $20 or so for a good chronometer.

yes, let's fire this up again. We're at $30 still for the chrono fund, donated by James, Doug and Brandon.

I've heard great things about the Madbull chronos, and someone was telling me that a dedicated CQC facility near them uses the Madbulls. That's endorsement enough for me.

I still have 10 this saturday.

I'll bring $20 so I guess that brings us up to $60. $40 more and we get that Madbull

stay with the same rule plz

this thread is almost a year old now, but thanks for the input. We've been operating with these FPS limits since our inception.

Besides you do not really have to worry about it until you make it to a game...